“I touched on that in the article. It wasn’t something I sought out. It wasn’t something I pursued. George Dohrmann approached me. When a man that has Pulitzer Prize in his pocket calls you and says, ‘Hey I want to talk to you,’ you pay attention. At first, I was very apprehensive about doing it. But the more I thought about it, it made sense. I made the decision that it was the right time. I really, quite frankly, did not like the way things happened with my suspension. I’m not hiding that. I should have been suspended many times over for all the players that I paid, all the rules I violated. If I had been suspended for that stuff, it would have been fine. I did the crime. I should do the time. What they did suspend me for, I did not do. I’m not a lot of things. I’m not Mother Teresa. I’m not a saint. I never claimed to be. But one thing I am not is a thief. They made it sound like I used a $5,300 commission check as leverage in a civil situation, when, in fact, it was the other way around. So I said, ‘Well, I’m all about leverage.’ I understand how leverage works. I have a lot of training in that. I’m going to go ahead and tell these stories. I’m going to tell the truth. And at the end of the day, that truth will buy me a paragraph where I can set the record straight, where I can change the ending of my story slightly and alter the legacy. And as this thing has progressed, my personal desires have become broadened. At the end of the day, there is dialogue and people are able to realize that there is an elephant in the room and people are able to talk about it, then my 20-year career wouldn’t have been for naught.”

On his current status as an agent:

“I’m still an agent. I still have a couple of active players and I paid my $1,700 for my NFLPA dues a few weeks ago. Before they decide to decertify me, which, after this article I would not be surprised if they do, but it would be wasting a bullet on a dead horse already. If they decide to go ahead and do that, then I would be a former sports agent.”

On if he paid players to get them to pay him back when he became their agent:

“You would hope so. I’m not going to lie to you, I wasn’t the bank. That wasn’t my purpose. The idea of this whole process was to use that to develop a relationship and as a way to have constant communication and at the end of the day, the end game is to represent the player.”

On how he thinks this story will impact the business:

“I’m not quite sure. I really don’t know. There are some people that will tell you that the truth hurts. And there are some people that will say that the truth never hurts. But the one thing is that it is still the truth… A lot of good can come of this. If it does, it will come rather than people trying tear me down, criticize me, attack me for doing this. Maybe you should stop putting your energy into that and deal with the problem that you got right in your face right now.”

On Mel Kiper denying that he called agents as they talked to players:

“Willie Howard was not the only individual that was involved in a meeting where Mel Kiper just so happened to call. I can only talk about what I witnessed and what I participated in. People have their own reasons and their own demons, whatever that might be and they can deny what they want to deny. I am not insinuating that Mel Kiper was paid. I’m not saying that Mel Kiper was a recruiter. I’m just saying that Mel Kiper got a head’s up about players we were meeting with.”

And on what he thinks can be done to stop agents from contacting players illegally:

“Coaches do their best. You’ve got a lot of kids on a team. They’re all at young ages. I don’t know if you are a parent, but my kids are young enough that I know where my kids are at all times. Those kids at that age, you don’t know where your kids are at all times. I don’t think that these coaches really know what these guys are doing 24 hours a day seven days a week. And I don’t think that it’s fair for anyone to expect that they should. That’s the bottom line.”

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